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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2007, 11:39:38 AM »

This would seem to warrant a fresh topic - I'll start one .
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2007, 11:55:56 AM »

Would you consider certifying for others at some future date?

[author=Helen]Yeah ...Would you? Would you? You'd have a ready market from here I bet!

Re: the qualifications of the assessor God forbid there should ever be a dispute but my understanding is that even a GP if he can proove a knowledge of cosmetic ingredients and laws....this is right??Even at that I couldn't find anyone here in Ireland to do my certification.

I have to clear up some terminology. By "certify", I assume you mean get the formulations safety assessed. The UK enactment of the European Cosmetic Directive only allows certain professions to do the assessment.

This is an extract from the Directive:-

The Cosmetic Products (Safety) (Amendment) Regulations 1997 allow for safety assessments to be undertaken by pharmacists (as defined by the Pharmacy Act 1954), doctors (as defined by the Medical Act 1983), chartered biologists and chartered chemists. In addition, the Regulations also permit any person holding a diploma within the meaning of Regulation 2(1)

I originally qualified as a Doctor of Chemistry but I'm not a Chartered Chemist so I am personally not able by law to sign off a safety assessment.

What I used to do in my last company was to prepare the labelling, the PIF (Product Information File) and deal with consumer complaints and keep a database of the percentage of alleged reactions for the product. All this was to meet the requirements of the European Cosmetic Directive and I would send the PIF along with any safety test data (e.g. human patch testing) to a Safety Assessor who would assess the formulation for us.

I am thinking about whether to offer Consultancy to anyone who needs help to meet the Regulatory requirements for their products (i.e. with their product labelling, creation of their PIF file) to the Industry (specifically producers whose philosophy is to use naturally - derived ingredients wherever possible), Therapists and non - Therapists who make their own products. But if I decide to do it (assuming there was a demand for this?) I'm not able to get into this for a while due to the day to day committments of my computer - related Business.

I feel I have the qualifications (chemistry doctorate, I used to be responsible for ensuring regulatory compliance in my last company relatively recently and I recently qualified as an Aromatherapist with ITEC) to do this and i think I'd enjoy it, but at the moment my time is being pulled in other ways.

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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2007, 12:38:17 PM »

I've started a topic in Legal issues (would have been earlier but a man from the Water Board called investigating a leak).
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2007, 01:31:33 PM »

Where you leaking from Elaine, lol
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2007, 01:44:15 PM »

Fingers crossed that it's outside the house (curently WB free repair even if on our property) and not under the back kitchen/utility.

Loads of old pipes around underground.
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2007, 01:48:41 PM »

Oh, it's a pipe, I thought maybe you had sprung a leak, he, he  Grin

Sorry, just being a bit cheeky.  Ooh, I'll keep my fingers crossed too Elaine that it's outside the house.  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2007, 08:57:31 PM »

hiya peter, its nice to see a male that will actually face all of us women  Grin
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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2007, 10:01:45 AM »

ElaineJ, my assessor did require the individual recipes, and charged for the additional ingredients.

I hope to work on creams and lotions next ...and I am not sure why that leaves me feeling very anxious.

I've put the names and contact details, including websites, for three assessors in the Preparing for Assessment/Certification thread in Legal Issues
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2007, 03:57:53 PM »

Hi Peter, another man, cool.

My mom qualified as a reflexologist and aromatherapist some years ago. Her training was paid for by the NHS as she was then, a learning disabilities nurse. I belive that doing reflexology and aromatherapy on people with learning difficulties was extremely successful for both her and the client/patient. There must be a need for it otherwise the NHS wouldn't have paid for her to do it.

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