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« on: March 11, 2011, 11:04:01 PM »
I came across a discussion regarding preservative for room sprays. Do they need any?

I am not really sure....they are essentially oil and water, but I am not adding sugar, unless of course the emulsifier is sugar based?
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2011, 11:10:34 PM »
My understanding is you do need a preservative, unless there is alcohol, but that can't be sold.

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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2011, 11:12:46 PM »
But if you leave water for a long time, you get stuff growing in it, so I would say to add some.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2011, 12:30:52 AM »
I used  Cyclopentasiloxane in my room sprays  you can add up to 15% fragrance  so you only need one smal squirt but it is hellish expensive.  I only used 10%
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2011, 10:04:48 AM »
Quote from: madpiano on March 11, 2011, 11:04:01 PM
I came across a discussion regarding preservative for room sprays. Do they need any?
I am not really sure....they are essentially oil and water, but I am not adding sugar, unless of course the emulsifier is sugar based?
What sort of oil MP? Just fragrance oil? If so, no preservative required really - not a cosmetic product so same rules don't apply. Which emulsifier? PS?
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2011, 10:10:28 AM »
I am thinking of using one of the Polysorbates, yes. Not sure which one will have to look into that. Otherwise it will be just water and FO/EO
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2011, 11:56:48 AM »
Quote from: madpiano on March 12, 2011, 10:10:28 AM
I am thinking of using one of the Polysorbates, yes. Not sure which one will have to look into that. Otherwise it will be just water and FO/EO

hi MP, yes I thiink you are on the right track re the Polysorbates, I recall it was added in one of the course I went on a couple of years ago....
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2011, 02:27:21 PM »
I'm another one using cyclo .. its pricey but if you can buy in bulk you'll make a saving .. I was going to use the distilled water/vodka/poly way but cyclo is so much easier
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2011, 02:42:15 PM »
I use cyclo too - but damned expensive!
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2011, 10:06:14 PM »
Anyone else noticed that some FOs don't dissolve in cyclo? I tried to make a 10% fragrance for use in a rollerball (Kenzo dupe from GF) - just separated into two layers  Huh?
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2011, 10:10:12 PM »
Try it with some PS20.

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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2011, 10:21:16 PM »
Got it to work at the time thanks Eire  (with PS20) - just an observation that cyclo doesn't work for all fragrances (or I'm unlucky to have chosen the only one that it doesn't work with)
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2011, 10:30:16 PM »
Maybe it's the type of cyclo??

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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2011, 10:37:09 PM »
Quote from: Eire on March 20, 2011, 10:30:16 PM
Maybe it's the type of cyclo??

Eire
Possibly, although most silicone based solvents are likely to behave in the same way - I've noticed some really interesting carriers/solvents (non alcohol / cyclo based) for this type of application coming in from the states in commercial formulations - will be interesting to see if they filter into the small scale market - 'course for rollerball perfumes, jojoba or fractionated coconut usually does the job - I was just "playing" with cyclo when I noticed this
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2011, 10:38:52 PM »
Think I spotted one of them just out on a suppliers site in the States (maybe about a month ago).

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