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Title: Bain marie
Post by: Soap_for_breakfast on August 13, 2009, 02:59:06 PM
I'm thinking about getting one of these to melt my soya wax inhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/PLIMCO-LTD-5712040154-Beka-Marie/dp/B000EBFK0U/ref=tag_dpp_lp_edpp_img_in (http://www.amazon.co.uk/PLIMCO-LTD-5712040154-Beka-Marie/dp/B000EBFK0U/ref=tag_dpp_lp_edpp_img_in)

Has anyone got one of these? are they any good for candle making?


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Loretta on August 13, 2009, 07:13:17 PM
Looks interesting


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: sharon on August 13, 2009, 07:33:43 PM
I like the look of it but it doesn't mention capacity unless I can't see it (very possible  :mwaha:)


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Kestrel on August 13, 2009, 10:15:25 PM
About 1.7L

http://www.beka-cookware.com/cookware/product/78/bain-marie (http://www.beka-cookware.com/cookware/product/78/bain-marie)


 ;D


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: EJ on August 13, 2009, 10:22:18 PM
It's very like the one Which Thornes (bee stuff) have on site - down at the bottom of this page (https://secure.thorne.co.uk/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/millhouse/thorne/shop/springer?ACTION=thispage&THISPAGE=page10155.html&ORDER_ID=268121210) (doesn't give capacity either)


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: sharon on August 13, 2009, 10:30:04 PM
Thanks kes! I was going to google it later but you beat me to it :)

tbh I don't think there is much difference to using a pot/pan with a glass bowl or jug at that size ;)


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: EJ on August 13, 2009, 10:39:52 PM
Thornes (see above) have some large wax melters for candle makers and melting beeswax down to cast slabs.


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Soap_for_breakfast on August 13, 2009, 10:52:56 PM
Thanks kes! I was going to google it later but you beat me to it :)

tbh I don't think there is much difference to using a pot/pan with a glass bowl or jug at that size ;)


Whenever I try using a pan there always seems to make a mess and the way I do it is pretty dangerous. hmmm. I need to re-think or just go for the bain marie. How does everyone melt wax? surely there must be a safe double boiler way I just haven't tried yet.


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: EJ on August 13, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
For creams and small runs of melts I use a salon waxpot.

For larger amounts I use a double boiler (bought as such).

For waxed paper flowers (haven't made any for years) I use an old crockpot.


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Soap_for_breakfast on August 14, 2009, 09:07:12 AM
Elaine, do you reckon It's more woth whole getting a double boiler than a bain maire?


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: EJ on August 14, 2009, 09:41:07 AM
Are you dipping or pouring?

Double boiler (two pans which fit to gether - also called bain marie) has the advantage for pouring of either pan-handle long enough to hold with two hands or a grab handle either side.


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Soap_for_breakfast on August 14, 2009, 11:31:36 AM
I'm pouring.
So, I think I'll get a double boiler then. Thanks for helping me out :)


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: kevie192 on August 20, 2009, 12:05:46 AM
I wouldn't get anything made of glass to melt wax in... It takes toooo long and the glass gets far too hot to manipulate safely and control the temperature. Double boilers have the problem that they don't tend to have a groove to help you pour which means you risk emptying it out onto the counter and spilling when filling tart moulds etc. and it's hard to be exact.

I use an aluminium pouring jug from here: http://www.devonscents.co.uk/ourshop/cat_101302-CANDLE-MAKING-ACCESSORIES.html

They haven't get any at the moment but you can get them in lots of places. You just sit them in a pan of boiling water over the stove. I really like it because it's really quick to melt but temperature is easily controllable. It has a stay-cool handle and pouring spout to make it extra user-friendly too!

Kevin x


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Honey on August 20, 2009, 09:59:19 AM
I imagine a catering equipment company would sell something similar - try  here  (http://www.nisbets.co.uk/products/ProductList.asp?TopGroupCode=C3&ParentGroupCode=S41&GroupCode=577).


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Soap_for_breakfast on August 20, 2009, 11:02:46 AM
Thanks for those links! they're going to come in handy. In the end I bought a similar pouring jug off ebay. Right now I'm halfway through making candles, in the waiting stage. I'll post pics later on.


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Soap_for_breakfast on August 20, 2009, 02:43:42 PM
Do you think if I put my metal pouring jug straight on to one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-ARNIE-SINGLE-ELECTRIC-HOB-HOT-PLATE-HOTPLATE-1000W_W0QQitemZ390072886580QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090724?IMSfp=TL090724151002r21927#ht_2742wt_877 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-ARNIE-SINGLE-ELECTRIC-HOB-HOT-PLATE-HOTPLATE-1000W_W0QQitemZ390072886580QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090724?IMSfp=TL090724151002r21927#ht_2742wt_877)

it would be ok? I only have a gas hob and have been putting water in a pan and then the jug in that. I thought getting an electric plate might be a bit safer. What do you think?


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: kevie192 on August 20, 2009, 05:29:15 PM
I don't think that would be any good... You'd probably scorch the wax, it really does need to be heated indirectly.

Kevin x


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Soap_for_breakfast on August 20, 2009, 05:40:10 PM
I don't think that would be any good... You'd probably scorch the wax, it really does need to be heated indirectly.

Kevin x

I thought that might be true. Oh well.


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Scott on August 20, 2009, 05:56:36 PM
I'm thinking about using a slow cooker for M&P melting. I've seen one with a keep warm function (Morphy Richards) which might be useful for wax melting?
My currrent one takes a while to melt shea and coconut for soaping and seems quite gentle on "low".


Title: Re: Bain marie
Post by: Soap_for_breakfast on August 20, 2009, 06:42:59 PM
Yeah, I thought about using the slow cooker that I use exclusively for soap but I figured it would take too long. I'm inpatient.