Could you use others oils to disguise the taste? I get herbal toothpaste from Lidls (only 45p & lovely taste). It has extract of Mentha arvensi oil, Commiphora Myrrha extract, Chamomilla Recutita extract, Salvia officinalis extract. Would that work
The other one I get has Eucalyptus and spearmint  in it.
Kim

I would be willing to give it a go and make some as i know I would be able to sell it to my friends (though how long they would stay as friends after using it is another matter). Then let you lot test it when it has cured for at least 4 weeks. But whether I can get it assessed is another matter as I still have not had a reply from Nigel or any of the others.
I have tried the nice and  the pleading and am at the stage now.
Kim

With regards to the SA I am sure it would have to be different due to the method of application and risk of ingestion.
Saying that though, I've done a few quick searches on dental soap or soap for cleaning teeth and people seem to be recommending any soap as long as it does not contain glycerine.

Very interesting...

Sharon - my thoughts exactly.

If I get the recipe from Peaches I'm going to try a test batch and then run it past my assessor to see what else needs to be considered and whether there are any insurance issues.  The zero superfat is a concern, since there's a very fine line between getting perfect saponification .... and a sore mouth! 

This is not a beginners soap, that's for sure!

I' ve been thinking about this more. If part of the problem is that glycerine coats the teeth and needs rinsing times, the point that is missing is that it would remove eventually on its own from the saliva in the mouth anyway. Teeth aren't permanently coated, are they, so I don't see what the problem is? Am I missing something?   

I know there is a lot of debate about flouride and I am against the forceful mass medication of the nation by puting flouride in the water, but there are loads of toothpastes available now that do not contain fluoride, sls/sles or parabens.

Perhaps I need to read Dr Judd's book to understand it more?

Whay an interesting thread, don't know how I missed it. I might have a go with a palin soap but all my soaps are superfatted. Why shouldn't the soap be superfatted? Anybody know?

No problems if it's superfatted as far as I know. OK, I have tried soap in dental hygiene and my teeth felt surprisingly clean. I just don't know if I can change toothpaste to soap. My dentist certainly recommends toothpaste with fluoride and since I have too much karies I think I should just obey the dentist, she's a professional after all.

Here people think fluoride is essential for teeth care and I'm scared of leaving it off!

soaps should be superfatted the only time you don't superfat is if your making laundry soap
reason why is that if you make just the tinsy mistake you could end up stripping your skin and burning it with the lye.
non superfatted soap is an irritant.

I've just emailed my soap lady to ask her for the exact recipe.  She is still using it to clean her own teeth and tells me she will sell it on her own site as 5 other people have asked her to make some!
Soheila please educate yourself about fluoride - don't trust your dentist just because she's a professional!
Take a look at www.fluoridealert.org.
By the way if any of you are looking for top quality, short run labels check out www.digitaldeadline.co.uk
They did a fab job for me last year.
Also there is a brilliant label printer available called the Primera LX400.
I recommended it to a supplier who bought one and she loved it so much she recommended it to one of her suppliers who also bought one!
If any of you are going to the Natural Products Show this month you'll probably see it there.

But fluoride in the water supply (which is the predominant theme of that site) is somewhat different from fluoride in toothpaste - one is swallowed and the other spat out.

The site states that fluoride which is ingested, as in water, does not benefit the teeth and one of the links actually advocates fluoride in toothpaste as this coats the teeth, offering protection, but is not swallowed.

Earlier up the thread the lady who started it said that the dental soap shouldn't be superfatted. I wanted to know why? I would have thought that a lye heavy bar might be the worse thing to put into your mouth as it would do a lot of damage.

Incidently, I tried it this morning my soap has olive, coconut oil, palm and cocoa butter along with FO's. It didn't taste as bad as I remember when my mom washed my mouth out with it when I was younger.  :mwaha: Saying that if I remember rightly it was washing up liquid.

I tried brushing with soap last night and this morning. Wasn't bad last night, didn't mind the taste at all, just rinsed well.
This morning I tried again...yucky yuck, made me gag and way too much foam. However, I dont give up easily, so I will keep trying it.
Can't say I felt any difference on my teeth and I missed the minty freshness.

I am not trying it 
I can send you some of my mint soap Corrie, you'll be breathing the minty freshness all day - I must tone down the eo's :mwaha:

Hi Peaches

It's interesting to see the % of oils, but the lye figure looks wrong to me (and I've just run it through an American lye calc to be sure)



Edited to say that the lye water have now been corrected and the amounts given are as they should be