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izzyfranny
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« on: April 01, 2010, 10:34:51 PM »
Can some one put me straight on this question please.  I have heard that soy wax damages silicone moulds, is this true??  If so how do you prevent it.

Many thanks
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 07:11:30 AM »
No, paraffin wax damages moulds made of silicone or latex if stearin is added. Stearin is an additive used to harden paraffin wax and it's an acid, so it will eat away at the moulds.

No problems with using soy wax in silicone, I've never heard of that...
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 11:12:00 PM »
Soy pillar blend will also damage silicone moulds.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2010, 01:29:55 PM »
Quote from: Vicky on April 02, 2010, 11:12:00 PM
Soy pillar blend will also damage silicone moulds.

I've scoured the internet and can find no reference to this. Do you have a source?
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2010, 03:03:30 PM »
I have used soy pillar wax in silicone molds with no problems?
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2010, 08:41:20 PM »
Thanks guys for answering my question.  Now you do realise you have made me penniless as I have so many silicone moulds to try out  Muttley
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2010, 01:32:29 AM »

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I've scoured the internet and can find no reference to this. Do you have a source?
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It's due to the additives in the pillar soy. There's many references to it on the CSNS forum, any experienced candler would know.
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2010, 04:38:46 AM »
Quote from: izzyfranny on April 04, 2010, 08:41:20 PM
Thanks guys for answering my question.  Now you do realise you have made me penniless as I have so many silicone moulds to try out  Muttley

 Muttley We've not chosen the cheapest of hobbies, that's for sure. There's always something new you want/must try  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2010, 07:45:37 AM »
Quote from: Vicky on April 05, 2010, 01:32:29 AM


I've scoured the internet and can find no reference to this. Do you have a source?
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It's due to the additives in the pillar soy. There's many references to it on the CSNS forum, any experienced candler would know.
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As any 'experienced' candler should, I have found evidence to back up my claims and not just by what people say on another forum either...

I contacted NGI who manufacture Ecosoya and asked them which additives they contain and if they will damage silicone moulds and this is their response:

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Dear Kevin,
I am sorry we cannot disclose that information as it is proprietary information. The botanicals we use are trade secret.   Our wax is 100% vegetable.
 
I can say that we have never had a complaint about silicone mold deterioration.
 
Thank you for your e-mail.
 
Dr. Al
Nature's Gifts International, LLC

So it would seem we are ok to use soy in our silicone mould after all.

Kevin x
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2010, 02:44:13 PM »
or be able to sue them  if your silicone molds deteriorate as they have failed to disclose and even seem to be assuring that  their product would not cause deteriorate molds.
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2010, 10:14:13 PM »


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As any 'experienced' candler should, I have found evidence to back up my claims and not just by what people say on another forum either...

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I wasn't just going from claims from what people say. I was going from my own experience, i have been making candles for ten years. And i also repspect the other people, on the other forums opinions as they are well respected long term professional candle makers. I would rather not risk my moulds i've spent a fourtune on them.
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